Tuesday, 20 November 2012

is the christian right's obsession with the "end of days" standing in the way of peace?

From where i'm looking, its totally plausible.

Orthodox Christianity and Mormonism believe that nothing since the very day of creation itself, will have more impact than when Christ "comes again".   Since the world was created ... not sliced bread, not microwaves, not even the birth of Jesus, but way back to before there was an earth or animals or plants.  Remember how that was nothing ... and how that got changed?  There will be a change that is that significant.  Its when Christ returns.  From this perspective, once Jesus comes again peace and happiness will reign.  

Problem is, according to the same sources, he is not able to come again until a number of horrible occurring first.   Which creates a weird "Catch 22", in fact even an environment of schadenfreuder as each travesty in the middle each is an inch closer to the blessed day.

Would the world be more peaceful world if the book of Revelations and these predictions of calamity were not in the Bible? 
From a Facebook exchange:   
peace is posible but not in this life. Mosiah 3:19 For the natural man is an enemy to God... it is in mans nature to be angry, want as many women as possible, greedy, and selfish. that is what this life is about. overcoming our natural man. if it wasnt we wouldnt need laws. i long for peace, my heart breaks that we have such a short time in this life and people waste it fighting and so many children grow up without a childhood and are taught to hate others. but i must be realistic. every ward has members who dont go to church because they dont like other mormons in their ward. if we cant even get along in amerca when we are in the same church how will the middle east come together? there has always been wars and as long as there are 2 or more people on the earth there will be wars.    
not leading with fear, leading with reality

This long range, not in this lifetime, perspective has impact on American foreign policy.  If negotiators hold this view point, where will/can we end up?

We need to be sure to employ only negotiators that believe in peace.  New and improved litmus test for the 21st Century: 'do you believe that peace is possible'?

If we don't ask the question, and continue to let the Mormons, Conservative Christians and Zionists who do not believe in peace, form our foreign policy, this is where they might take us:
  • "The greatest war, slaughter, carnage, bloodshed, and desolation for all ages will be in full swing at the very hour when Christ returns. ...  All nations of the Earth shall be gathered at Jerusalem  at Armageddon, in the valley of Jeshaphat, the valley of decision.  It will be 'a day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of think darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains'.  The hosts of Gog and Magog, the armies assembled to battle, shall be 'a great people and a strong; there hath not been eve the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.  A fire devoureth before them, and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them and desolate wilderness; yea and nothing share escape them" -- McConkie
  • For the wicked descriptive words for this day include: sorrow, dreadful, desolation, burning, vengeance, 'judgment which the wicked shall not abide'.
  • Christ will be in red and the costume is stunning! 'Like him that treadeth in a wine-vat'.  Which is often interpreted as symbolic of all the blood.  "And his voice shall be heard: I have trodden the winepress alone, and have brought judgement upon all people; and none were with me; An I have trampled them in my fury, and I did tread upon them in mine anger, and their blood have I sprinkled upon my garments, and stained all my raiment; for this was the day of vengeance which was in my heart (see D&C 133:41-51)
  • When Jesus comes again, he will judge the nations and will divide the righteous from the wicked (see Matthew 25:31-46). "I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God . . . and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." The wicked he saw "lived not again until the thousand years were finished" (Revelation 20:4-5).
We will get what we aim for. 

Peace will prevail, eventually.  I hope it is soon.  I chose peace.  I hope others will too.  We can get there, but it will just require the meek to walk in boldness without weapons and in peace.  Which means it will take a whole lot of us.

May we walk on!


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some of the back-up from scriptures if your interested
  • John 14:2-3; Matthew 26:64 (Jesus to prepare a place and come again)
  • Malachi 3:2-3; 4:1; D&C 64:23-25 (earth to be burned)
  • D&C 133:41-51 (wicked to be destroyed)
  • Matthew 13:40-43 (the Judgment predicted)
  • Romans 2:6-9; Revelation 20:12-13 (the Judgment)
  • 1 Corinthians 15:40-42; D&C 78; 88:17-35 (degrees of glory)
  • 2 Corinthians 12:2 (a man was caught up to the third heaven)
  • D&C 43:29-30; 29:11 (the Savior's coming will usher in the Millennium)
  • Articles of Faith 1:10 (Jesus to reign)
  • Alma 11:43-44; Alma 40 (the Resurrection explained)
  • Helaman 14:25 (the dead to rise)
  • Zechariah 14:9; Revelation 11:15; 1 Nephi 22:24-26 (Jesus to reign as King)

Thursday, 15 November 2012

Why I love Nancy Pelosi

this is such a perfect example of the genius and grace of nancy pelosi.

watch how she responds as a young journalist suggests she needs to step down because she is old.  exchange begins at 2:00



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if you're curious, i found her opening remarks inspiring.  she holds her own with such grace i love it!


Wednesday, 7 November 2012

303 becomes 420+

just sayin'

this guy was a prophet ...


EXHALE

i wrote this on my "wall" a moment ago.  my GOP friends are heartbroken and its a bummer to watch.  i know the feeling. i'm grateful that some friends will know understand a tinge of the agony of 2000.    won the popular vote. lost by just over 500 votes in FL. hard a pill would that be to swallow.

so after having swallowed that pill, its a glorious morning.  so in my jubilation i wrote this:


"Wherefore, whoso believeth in God might with surety hope for a better world, yea, even a place at the right hand of God, which hope cometh of faith, maketh an anchor to the souls of men, which would make them sure and steadfast, always abounding in good works, being led to glorify God." 
we all voted with our hearts. with hope for a better world. if we keep the hope of the better world alive, we can achieve it. not through fighting, but through really listening to each other. 
we are scruffy lot! our democracy is ugly and we get nasty. we fight with love, passion and deep conviction. 
may the next 4 years be a time of healing for us all. may we work harder to understand where the other is coming from. may we learn empathy for each other's suffering. my the wounds of war, both seen and unseen, be cared for and healed. 
restoration of america's place as the harbinger of hope is possible. america can lead the way in securing that every person lives in dignity. in safe society that allows us to fulfill our greatest potential. where 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is guaranteed.
we aren't there: yet. 
let's come together to build a more perfect union. not just as the 50 states, but as a global community. 
out of many, one. america is the land of many. but we are one. and because we are one, we are one with the rest of the world. 
SOMOS AMERICANOS! (that is for you Lee Fleming) 
*if your still reading thanks ... i was really feeling this! ;)

Monday, 5 November 2012

Mormons and Voter Intimidation?

this is not a singular experience.  others have shared on the Mormons for Obama Facebook page and at mormonstories.org etc.  it does seem a bit oppressive.

it will be interesting to see if more of this pops up.  i know that during Prop 8, friends in California felt their temple recommends threatened for not having anti-gay marriage signs in their yard. another friend's husband gave the anti-movement money simply because he felt like it would jeopardize their social status in the ward if they didn't.


from the Mormons for Obama facebook:

This morning's seminary kinda went off the rails. Here's what I sent to our stake president, and bishop in an email: 

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At this morning's seminary, (the seminary teacher) began by saying this week was going to be exciting, concluding with words that included, "and we're getting a new president!!!!". 


What followed was many of the students making loud, hateful comments towards President Obama.

With several other adults present, none of them reminded the class regarding the Church's neutrality on such comments.

What would be your counsel on such matters?

Anne and I feel this behavior is totally inappropriate for seminary and (the seminary teacher) failed to provide the proper spirit for seminary, supported by the adults in attendance (Brother xxxxx and Sister xxxxx).

The Church has been quite clear on how we are to approach political issues (page 41 of the October Ensign).

What should be the consequences of this behavior in your estimation?

Thank you>>>

My 17 year old daughter came home in tears.